spiritpals

A place for those interested in collecting haunted items.

I am adding some info on spirits that I feel will be useful for spirit collectors.

The following questions have been answered by Magnolia on the creepyhollows forum (see my link page). It is a fanstastic forum for both veterens and newbies however there is so much of info that it can sometimes overwhelm newbies. So I have decided to cull the most important ones and paste them here. Thanks to Magnolia for clearing many doubts.  

Bound spirits are better than attached spirits...

No, not necessarily. Of course having a binding affords more leeway with being able to provide protection, Bridging, and other positive aspects but in our own home I'd venture to say we have as many bound as unbound living here. Attached spirits come & go and bound spirits chose to be bound & come to you because they want to fulfill a long-term support in your life. There's no greater advantage as far as the spirit's interaction with you, binding only affords you more opportunities for other complementing steps.

Dark Arts = Evil...

Only if you consider yourself evil. Dark Arts means the ability to choose between right or wrong, and humans are Dark Arts beings. We have the freedom to choose to do good or bad the same as Dark Arts spirits. We consider Black Arts entities the ones who operate purely out of evil and they are the ones who have no associations in the Encyclopedia. Dark Arts entities are those who have powers in the white & dark realm of spirits & magic, who you see exacting revenge or vengeance and who can choose to do good or bad in any situation. When a DA is part of your family you do not typically see them acting out against those in their own family circle because they are also very loyal beings.

Spirits travel in families...

Typically, no. This is an assumption where it depends on what entity you are talking about if it is even true but in the totality of spirits, no. There will always be exceptions but 99% of the time they do not.

You can forcibly bind spirits...

Yes, but in order to do so you better be extremely powerful and you WILL pay for it with your own energy, spirit & karma. You typically only see this in black magick practitioners doing so against other Black Arts spirits to force them to do their bidding because Black Arts spirits as a rule will not voluntarily help you. However, it should also be noted that in this case the word "spirit" is inaccurate because most of the time the Black Arts "spirits" bound against their will are living entities who reside on another plane such as the astral or spiritual. And BA practitioners always pay in the end and you don't usually see their run last longer than a few months or a year before something breaks them down if they are going with the forcible approach. BA entities have powers beyond any scope of a human and typically a BA practitioner will allow themselves to become possessed by a strong BA spirit in order to continue BA work. The number of these kinds of practitioners are very few and far between.

You can kidnap spirits...

LOL, no. I can't tell you how many times I've said that spirits are more evolved than we are, and it's the truth. They are not vulnerable, unknowing beings floating around waiting to be taken advantage of. They require respect and often humility to bring them through conjuration and they choose whether or not to come to you. Your reciting a conjuration opens the gate for any spirit(s) who want to come forward to do so to you specifically. Think about the words being a key turning the lock on a door and when you're done the door opens to the spiritual or astral realms. You cannot do a spiritual drive-by and scoop up unsuspecting spirits... LOL I'm sorry but this is one of the most ludicrous things I've heard to date. Spirits demand respect, rightly so, and you have to give respect to get it in anything in life including work with spirits.

You can torture or beat spirits...

The context of that expression denies itself. A spirit is a spirit therefore you cannot physically injure it. Are there nasty people in the world who have spirits to drag them down with themselves and be verbally abusive? Sure. Nasty people are everywhere but you have to remember we're talking about spirits. The spirit has the opportunity to move itself from the physical to spiritual plane at their own will and that is something you cannot take away from them no matter who you are so if they are not liking a situation they are in they are going to move to the spiritual and/or astral plane. As I've said before, humans are human. People have to get off the mindset that humans are superior beings, we are not, we are graced by the presence of spirits, not the other way around. Spirits are FAR more advanced than we. If a spirit is permanently bound to a vessel and not attached then they will likely go into the spiritual or astral realm and reside and not be with the vessel on the physical plane. 

SRA spirits here at CH that we participate in with hundreds of others are typically spirits that are bound, that had a good or average life with another Keeper and the Keeper either died or became otherwise unable to attend to them and sent them into the program through one of the SRA foster homes. Do we get spirits who have been with verbally abusive Keepers? Once in awhile, but typically those don't make it here because Keepers who are like that aren't going to give them over because people who are like that are obviously irresponsible. SRA spirits are generally quieter than others at first because they went from being with someone for a long time to having to start over anew and it can be a transition. 

Do not ever delude yourself that humans are more powerful than spirits or magic, that is a DANGEROUS assumption & belief. Humans are priviledged to practice magic & interact with spirits which requires RESPECT at all times that you are dealing with a force bigger than yourself. For most people they come into this spirit-keeping world with honest intentions and that is what they receive in return... goodness & happiness.

Spirits procreate...
Spirits do not have babies, they are spirits. They may have had babies when they were alive and they may go through those motions or relive those memories with you... and they may bring those other spirits into your life once they are settled but this is not the norm as stated above about spirit families. They do not usually bring others into an existing situation 99% of the time. As said before there are exceptions to this and Keepers specifically who are exceptions because of their unique energy that promotes that kind of behavior, but the majority of the time you aren't going to have a spirit bring other spirits to you without your consent or knowledge. Respect & trust is a two-way street and you will see that spirits abide by respect & trust as so likely do you.

Binding to Spirit = Soul binding

No. If it we meant soul binding we would have said it. We're well-educated people and if we meant to say soul-binding then it would say that. Binding to spirit means binding to your essence, the field of energy that comprises your unique spirit, that some believe is split into pieces & reincarnated, while your soul moves on to whatever you believe is your version of Heaven. So if someone tells you Binding to Spirit means soul binding you can tell them they are ignorant of the facts. We do not offer and have never offered soul bindings.

You can kill a spirit

No, that would be what is known as an oxymoron. A spirit is a spirit because it was once a living entity and now it is not, so it is in spirit form. An entity is a being that is still alive on any plane or in any dimension. When that living entity expires most come into spirit form. Immortals, like Aphrodite & Zeus for example, are not spirits because they are Immortal so they are living beings that continue to live without expiry. You can banish a spirit back where it came from but you cannot kill it. Also, as I said above do NOT delude yourself that humans are more powerful than spirits or magic, that is a DANGEROUS assumption & belief. And do not work with practitioners who believe they are more powerful than spirits or magic because their lack of respect could bring you serious problems. You must exercise respect & humility when working with the paranormal.

Spirits are all-powerful

Absolutely not. Dying and moving into spirit form does not mean you've just won some kind of universal power contest. If the spirit did not have the power while in living form it will not have it in death. Yes, spirits do come into some abilities like moving between the physical & spiritual planes but if they were not magically-inclined in life they are not going to know or be able to practice magic just because they came into spirit form. That goes for any ability or power. A Harpy, for instance, is not going to suddenly become and emblem of Good Luck & Attracting Positive Light because they are now a spirit, just as a Leprechaun is not going to become a powerful sorcerer in spirit form. Spirits do not come into cosmic powers they did not have in life just because they died.

All Conjurations or Summoning practices are evil

A conjuration or a summon is to call upon an entity or a spirit. To summon something doesn't have to be complicated; when they call out for help to God or they call out for the angels to help them, they are summoning those entities for help. You can summon or call many kinds of entity from pure white to grey to pure black. To bind is the process of taking the next step after conjuring or summoning and the entity must give consent in order to be bound.

Conjuring, Summoning & Channeling, 3 very different things

Conjuring is the process of using an invocation or ritual to bring an entity or spirit through to you. Mastery of this takes time & often years. Those who are not experienced or masters should not write conjurations as choice of word & conjuration formation is essential to conjuring the right entity. Conjurations given away or sold by masters can be used by the novice & intermediate for trusted results and the invocation for conjuration & instructions provided (if any) should be followed to the letter.

Summoning is the process of calling an entity or spirit. It is not always 100% accurate when used simply as a call to an Angel, for example. The more specific you are in summoning the better off you are. It has little or no structure provided and therefore calling out for assistance could result in any entity willing to respond to do so. Summoning does not require invocations or rituals and can be done through verbal expression, use of a vessel, or telepathy.

Channeling is the process of connecting yourself to another entity or place, it is temporary and does not require immediate presence in one location like Conjuring or Summoning. Neither you or the target has to leave your current location to channel. For instance, you can channel the spirit of a lost relative on the spiritual plane. You are extending your energy to them on their realm and creating a connection. You can channel a location in the astral realm, you can astral travel and channel a time, place, or person... channeling is an explorative method used to help you in discovery & growth of your energy & abilities. Channeling often requires an invocation or a method of visualization. Sometimes the channeling invocation can be bound to an object which is then activated by the user in some manner.

Can someone steal your spirits, or can a practitioner call back a spirit they bound?

In a nutshell, no. We can only truly speak for Creepy Hollows when we say spirits are never called back unless the Keeper requests them to be. When we conjure & bind a spirit we do so without any bonding, without any personal interaction, and provide only the basic details as given during conjuration for the next Keeper to identify with. We do this because we have no interest in becoming personally invested with a spirit we plan to home. Yes, it leads to non-lengthy descriptions, but we conjure for the purpose of homing and not the purpose of bonding with them.

Can someone steal your spirits from their vessels? No. Why?

#1 to unbind you must know the process in which it was bound
#2 you cannot forcibly bind spirits
#3 we cannot transmute any spirits whose vessels are lost without their permission because as #2 states, you cannot FORCE a spirit to be bound.

For example, I can't take one of Gwen's Werewolves from a vessel nor can she take a Vampire binding we've done from a vessel. 

Not only that, but conjurers have no reason to try; they are capable of conjuring spirits so why would they want to do that when they can conjure what they want?

Binding isn't a simple thing you can do without either training or without a tool already prepared with the necessary enchantments for you to activate. And unbinding requires you to know how it was bound in order to deconstruct the binding and reverse the process. Not to mention any conjurer worth their weight in gold will place certain enchantments on their bindings to safeguard the spirits & spells from anyone trying to be bothersome and we talk about that in another thread.

Spirits can leave you whenever they want forever or temporarily

If you have a spirit that has been bound then no, they can't leave the binding forever. Spirits do move between the different realms (which realms depends on the type of spirit) which may account for their temporary absence sometimes. A spirit cannot, however, decide to remove themselves from you indefinitely. If someone tells you this I would strongly question their motives for telling you that. Are they trying to sell you a product or service to bring the spirit back? Are they offering to be a medium between you & the spirit and convince them to come back? Or any other such nonsense? I cannot say it enough that spirits are not emotional beings that are going to have a hissy fit and stomp away... rather, they are evolved beings that are fully capable of making sound decisions based on the fact they can see beyond what we mortals can and in coming to you in the first place they had a reason for being with you! A bound spirit has the freedom to move between this realm & their own but they can't unbind themselves from a vessel.